Vice President Kamala Harris has not submitted to many interviews with journalists during her short presidential campaign, and certainly none with conservative media.

Harris praised her interlocutor, Bret Baier, as a “serious journalist,” a contrast from Trump saying Fox News was “owned” by her spokesperson Ian Sams. And she took a step to defuse last week’s self-own that her presidency would not be much different that Joe Biden’s.

Kamala Harris received a better score from swing voters during her Fox News interview on Wednesday than her general popularity with this group, according to a study. Online monitoring and analysis company Impact Social reported that 20 percent of swing voters who watched the interview had a positive impression of Harris.